A punishment for scamming at least 73,000 people out of hundreds of millions of dollars. Dallon was out in the parking lot on his sixth smoke break. BEN PEREZ: There’s nothing really… thing to do there … they have like, mini golf…. And there was a court hearing coming up. California City sponsors include: We had a mutual friend. He sat and we sat. The man who started California City was named Nat Mendelsohn. MICHAEL VIERNES: My name is Michael Viernes, and I'm from Union City, and I happened to go, went, I went to Side Saddle Ranch about a year ago if I'm not mistaken. EMILY GUERIN: Administrative office. Where else within 100 miles of Los Angeles, can you hear absolutely nothing man-made, just the wind? The photo seemed like a perfect time to say goodbye. BEN PEREZ: Then I told them I don't have cash. 200,000 acres. I don’t know where to go. Cus this is is such a small knit community. Sun Basket is offering $35 off your order when you go right now to SUNBASKET.com/calcity and enter promo code calcity at checkout. Because whenever I asked about it, they wouldn't talk. In early August 2019, Ken got word. EMILY GUERIN: I talked to more than 25 people who invested with Silver Saddle. The nothingness is what makes the anything possible. Shame on you. Hey listen, if I can do it, you can do it. She’d been a nuclear physicist and she also taught encryption and decoding in the military. And the trees. EMILY GUERIN: As we drove away from town, I thought about everyone who had ever made this drive over the past 60 years. EMILY GUERIN: After three hours, we stumbled out into the early spring sunlight. : That's fraudulent. Cuz she wasn't even talking to me. EMILY GUERIN: Did you feel like you were father and daughter? He was in his 50s, ex-Air Force, his eyes hidden behind sunglasses and his hair hidden beneath a trucker hat. They sold 12 sheep and 10 goats for $500. They’re engaged in a grand illusion of creating wealth. Theresa’s long grey hair was wrapped around her shoulders like a shawl. I felt like if Ken wouldn’t say what he did, I had to. DON KUYRKENDALL: Well, I don't know. HERB LEE: Or someone whose purpose was to eliminate the opposition to incorporation or whatever. EMILY GUERIN: And it was true: everyone I talked to at the assessor’s office that day knew that Silver Saddle was selling the same pieces of land over and over. EMILY GUERIN: What makes you think I have a bad impression or the wrong impression about salespeople? And Ivan Irwan quickly caught on that, that that that game wasn’t working with this young attorney. She told me so. It’s basically this run-down, kitschy hotel where you can shoot guns and ride horses. That city’s past and present are investigated in a new podcast from KPCC’s LAist Studios, called California City. It was — even through the tough questions. EMILY GUERIN: Antonio said all he needed was to convince the court that everyone who had bought into Silver Saddle was on the same page. EMILY GUERIN: They didn’t want anything to do with Silver Saddle. EMILY GUERIN: But when Ben talks about this, there’s a lot of inconsistencies in his story. They’re kind of an open secret. And she was regal, sitting in her high-backed office chair like it was a throne. They were trying to get me to stay. EMILY GUERIN: For years, Steve didn’t think about Silver Saddle. EMILY GUERIN: Regulatory Resolutions wrote a detailed report of what happened on September 25. They’d listen to the spiel from the top of Galileo Hill. BEEP. BEN PEREZ: Yeah, I feel like you're not the person that I first met. So they ended up spending a lot of time in their rooms. Kings, queens and wars are fought over her. Oh heavens no. And said he immediately got a weird vibe from Silver Saddle. Maybe Ben would’ve turned to his buddy Clifford and asked, what the hell is that? For decades, real estate developers have sold a dream here: if you buy land now, you’ll be rich one day. Ken and another FTC lawyer sat down in the dead center of that massive table. He slouched in the driver’s seat and spun the coffee sleeve around his cup. EMILY GUERIN: I want to be clear: as far as I know, no one from Silver Saddle or Great Western Cities ever murdered anyone or buried bodies in the desert. EMILY GUERIN: The Silver Saddle stuff is always under the table? Ben told me he’d lost around $31,000. Ravens or maybe they're crows. EMILY GUERIN: Regulatory Resolutions ran the raid on Silver Saddle that day. Podcasts >; News >; California City From KPCC. RALPH NADER: Good, I can't believe you're into this land development story. Getting a receiver appointed is kind of a big deal. They would sneak to the top of the concrete waterfall. California City is a new investigative podcast series from LAist Studios. It had been on a computer in the Burbank office. I know Bakersfield gets a bad rap, but I love it. TV ANNOUNCER: Ralph Nader, who started the massive concern for auto safety, says the public wants mandatory airbags now! And either way, that wasn’t my point. I work 5 years just to save that $30 thousand. DEBBIE NICASTRO: It’s a requirement of you coming. EMILY GUERIN: What did he mean by that? And at 8 p.m., they would get up on stage in the Pacific Heights room and say something like: DON KUYRKENDALL: Listen, you can be a Kuyrkendall. You can be a part of it. No book store. laughs. Based on everything I’ve learned about Silver Saddle, from dozens of people who visited or bought in, I do think Silver Saddle took advantage of him. When Don worked there, in the early 70s, the company spent almost a million dollars a year on flying people down to take a look. LEE SMITH: And, and, and, and a lot of people do do that. Again, I was advised by some lawyers not to even do this at all, this podcast interview at all, just for the simple reason that, um, ah high profile anything is is never a good thing for a prisoner. sighs. It was the same thing Marian Ducreux would do with Ben Perez 60 years later. EMILY GUERIN: Don never stopped defending the dirt deals he did for Nat Mendelsohn. Oh, is this you? BEN PEREZ: Like, like super fast. And I see it again and again — Ken referring to the murder as “the tragedy that occurred,” or “what happened,” or “a failure.”. And of course you can’t tell by looking, but they just don’t seem like savvy investor types. He lives in one of those boxy, early 80s condo villages where every looks building identical and forgettable. To understand today’s white supremacist movement, look at the last time hate pulled in young Americans. I drove out here to Silver Saddle and was just shocked again by how far away it is. It’s — for me yes because I have a lot of clients you know. Which is pretty cool. No drugstore. So what are you saying? She thought Nat should finish what he started. EMILY GUERIN: It was a weird thing to include on your resume if you know what happened to Nat’s company. EMILY GUERIN: Silver Saddle is a long term investment, they said. California City is a limited series with 8 episodes. Show support by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. Ok, ok, I just have to read this whole part. KEN DONNEY: That's fraudulent. EMILY GUERIN: We went that same night. Maybe it’s a friend who invites you out to the ranch. It's like, we're, you know, Hispanics are more than 50% of the population in California. I only have $1,000 in my bank. He had a handlebar moustache. It read, “Ahh.. you made it! I would never recommend that to anyone. There you go. I knew they bought Silver Saddle Ranch. EMILY GUERIN: Her salespeople said she would definitely make her money back and then some. EMILY GUERIN: Was this kind of the thing that convinced you to do it? He said there were “suspicious transfers” of money. Which, we noticed, was a common opinion among the older white people in town. Uh, my mother. ALEX MENDELSOHN: He’d say, "Honey, this is just gonna be so wonderful. ALEX MENDELSOHN: I remember calling him up and asking him if I could ask him if I could call him Daddy. And it was owned by a pair of very rich brothers also from Texas — the Hunt Brothers. California City sponsors include: You should’ve stopped this a long time ago.”. mother drank too much, her father worked all the time. To plant trees. So Herb was alone with me and my producers. We met her at her real estate office on California City Boulevard. EMILY GUERIN: A salesperson told Kathryn Jandeska she’d be able to sell her $4,300 lot and make a profit. EMILY GUERIN: Steve pulled out a piece of yellow lined notebook paper. All rights reserved. BEN PEREZ: Um, because it's in the middle of nowhere. Oh, gee, I would love to get him on the witness stand in federal court. Which Steve thought was weird. Ben and his friends got back in the vans and they drove with their sales people to the tour’s third location. EMILY GUERIN: It did feel like a zombie movie. Well, when I looked at his paperwork, I realized it wasn’t a lump sum: there were a bunch of smaller charges, including $2000 to this thing called “the Capital Improvement Fund.”. I see him sweep his arm across the landscape and say, “This is the place.”. I mean It would just be any other sunbelt suburb. And he got up to leave. But some of the other props did, and they were beloved. KATHRYN EFFORD: Absolutely. KATHRN EFFORD: So, you know, it's like, God, you know? EMILY GUERIN: Everyone I talked to told me a similar version of what happens up here on Galileo Hill. That’s after a break. Towards the end of the night, I asked Herb and Dallon what they think about Nat Mendelsohn now. Sign and date. BEN PEREZ: We actually struggled a lot. That's it. EMILY GUERIN: Most of us don’t really understand the reams of legalese we agree to when we buy a house, or take out a car loan, or sign up for Facebook. I needed to know how Nat Mendelsohn sold so much empty desert land. MARIAN DUCREUX: laughs I don't know. And after that, he asked two of his detectives to talk to the Kern County district attorney about how to investigate Silver Saddle. EMILY GUERIN: Ken worried I didn’t understand how he felt about the. VOICEMAIL #2: We bought the lot in March of ‘71. Commercial-Free CNBC, CNN, FOX News Radio & MSNBC, Commercial-Free Music For Every Mood & Activity. On Episode 8 of the "New Ice City" podcast, longtime NHL reporter Scott Burnside joins the show to discuss what the 2021 season could look like and which hurdles still need to be cleared. EMILY GUERIN: Is there like green tea? And I think he was just trying to get his money back. KATHRYN EFFORD: Delete them. He’d been packing up the kitchen, preparing to move out. Arwen Nicks is an independent podcast producer and editor. ALEX MENDELSOHN: My name is Alex Mendelsohn, and I am the adopted daughter of Nathan Mendelsohn. EMILY GUERIN: I mean, you could contact the DA, they have, like, a consumer complaints division. There weren’t many people, either, except the Basque shepherds who herded their sheep to and from the high country in the Sierra Nevada. My mother was an alcoholic. He was wearing a short sleeve polo shirt, and I. I saw a tattoo peeking out on his right arm. LEE SMITH: Guerin. They have a pool, they have paddle boats, they have a corral with friendly horses. People called them the Nader’s Raiders, and Ralph was their fearless leader. She was raising Alex alone in a one-bedroom apartment in Santa Monica. You know, buyer beware. And in a letter Tom Maney wrote to investors that would later wind up in court documents, he said that this fund would be used to develop the empty desert land that surrounds the ranch. And he told me that maybe the fact that I had been digging around had put Silver Saddle on the DBO’s radar. EMILY GUERIN: I think she was doing that to me, too. Did he believe that 60-year old refrain: that California City was on the verge of booming? An older man offered to buy me something to eat. Then it was the judge's turn. Whatever act he's putting on, he knows. JOHN DAVIDSON: That lady has been there for a long time. EMILY GUERIN: I didn’t know it then, but the DBO lawyer knew exactly who I was. There’s nothing really… thing to do there … they have like, mini golf…, BEN PEREZ: They have one for Chinese they have one for. California City is a podcast that exposes the dark side of the American Dream. But Ben and his friends thought it was super lame. We drove to the edge of town and we kept going into the desert. Never cheated anybody out of a dollar that I am aware of, and I gotta tell you, I saw a lot of money come through here. For decades, real estate developers have sold a dream here: if you buy land now, you’ll be rich one day. EMILY GUERIN: Okay. Or whatever. EMILY GUERIN: Ben is a cook at the Google headquarters in Mountain View. EMILY GUERIN: In the beginning, California City was a small town, with just a handful of residents — they called themselves pioneers. KEN DONNEY: Close your eyes and imagine the lights of Los Angeles. Good job. That plywood sign with the green spray paint sign is gone. IT’S A GOOD DEAL. And talking to him was as close as I could get to being in one of Nat’s sales offices, almost as good as hearing the pitch myself. You can see I always have these under the table. So you need to trust me." BEN PEREZ: There's five of us and it's a two bedroom apartment. EMILY GUERIN: Marian Lee was literally the first mother of California City. . He is the host, co-reporter, and co-writer of the investigative podcast The Running Man, coming soon from ESPN; his work for ESPN.com will be featured in the book Best American Sports Writing 2020; and a 30-minute documentary he reported with ESPN is a finalist for a 2020 Sports Emmy. Can you imagine if you had bought land in one of those places before they boomed? Or Latino. Because by now, you’ve heard about Elon Musk and Google. Forever. And remove the cars. KELLY ANON: You never know if you talk to somebody if you're gonna be beat up. You know, it’s like somebody with this car, if something goes wrong with it, and he says, “Oh, this went wrong. KEN DONNEY: Keefe, K-E-E-F-E, it's a freeze dried instant coffee. KATHRYN EFFORD: But Kathryn you realize with your education, location location location. But he also made other people victims.". For decades, Californians have been obsessed with trying to profit off desert land. It’s a small town they might take me out.”. He was that guy Steve Colerick had said seemed evasive. No liquor store. EMILY GUERIN: Don loved putting on his suit and addressing the crowd, a shining example of what could happen if you took Nat Mendelsohn’s student program. What did Ken look like? EMILY GUERIN: As far as I can tell, the FTC began investigating California City just after the Nader’s Raiders’ report came out. Landbanking is where a bunch of people jointly own a huge chunk of land. I’m Emily Guerin, and welcome to California City, episode six. EMILY GUERIN: But Lee didn’t contact the DA. KEN DONNEY: Yeah, I’m talking to you guys and gals…, EMILY GUERIN: His phone cut out, but he said, “I’m talking to you, guys and gals at the FTC. I knew him. ANTONIO GARCIA: No. BEN PEREZ: I feel like I lose hope. EMILY GUERIN: He denied Silver Saddle had anything in common with Great Western Cities. BEN PEREZ: I said, oh my god, this is a scam. I was standing looking out this wall of glass across the top of Los Angeles, and, and he's talking about building a new, wonderful city. That, and the way Antonio was talking to Tom’s lawyer. And he said yes. EMILY GUERIN: And so if I get the sense that there's like inconsistencies in what people say, or, or if someone close to them says no, that didn't happen. EMILY GUERIN: Oh, like overnight, and we can bring it back? I scanned it. You can see the sunset over the southern Sierra Nevada to the west, and the distant glow from Los Angeles. BEN PEREZ: Yeah. DON KUYRKENDALL: I didn’t know a real estate transaction from a search warrant when I, when I went into the student program and they trained me to be a salesman and they taught me how to take ups and they taught me how to close. But we do now. Bigger than Vegas. How much of a. metropolis it was. Stories about how he got into real estate. James bought cigarettes, and I hit up the only coffee shop in California City: the McDonalds. If all you see is vacant land with a few roads... you don't get it. Two projector screens. So you, in a sense, you could just say well, ok, they were overly optimistic. The oleander bushes that lined California City boulevard got scraggly and wild. Ok? DON KUYRKENDALL: Why did Nat pick that spot? Now his mom is there too. You could be, you could be making atomic bombs for Dow Chemical right now, or you could be making $4,000–5,000 a month like Kuyrkendall… yeah you can do it too! MARIAN DUCREUX: Um. The FTC had issued a cease and desist order. MICHAEL VIERNES: Well, Benjamin is a good friend of mine. I feel like I'm gonna, I’ll gonna be stuck for who I am right now, as a low person, without any money and without being successful any more than what I thought before. It went like this: You’d see an ad in the paper for a real estate training course. DON KUYRKENDALL: If, even if there were 1,000 people that sued us it would be a fraction, a minuscule amount of the people that actually participated in the programs and people that bought property from ‘em. BEN PEREZ: That money is supposed to be for my future. It said, QUOTE, “the value of this land is uncertain. But what were his intentions? Not the kind of weather people imagine when they move here to chase their dreams. Stopped trying to get his money back. Kings, queens and wars are fought over her. Okay, so it’s 1976 at this point. I mean, most people, when they talk about history, they. So Ken flies to Denver. Good atmosphere. VOICE: THIS IS GLOBAL TEL LINK. Because she had been so nice to you? Your sales agent tells you there’s a future here. So he must have had his reasons. There were vans waiting outside, and they all got in. Please check website home page daily for updated information; Public Works emergencies after hours only: (760) 559-5713; City Hall main number is: (760) 373-8661; Water Bills can be paid online. But Ben, I don’t know, he told me he just wasn’t convinced. TOM MANEY: We don't know. EMILY GUERIN: Ben was not confident that the lawsuit would help him. Because there's been a reputation up here in the high desert, too, of places for people to just dump bodies. Official website for California Coronavirus (COVID-19) Response daily updates and resources. Like...”. And he was standing very close to Tom Maney’s lawyer, surrounded by a group of people who were listening intently. Uh uh. There are roads and some houses, but it seems unfinished. KATHRYN EFFORD: And I had a friend who was an investor stock guy, type person, okay. EMILY GUERIN: Regulatory Resolutions ran the raid on Silver Saddle that day. She went to Sacramento to complain to politicians. EMILY GUERIN: Do you feel like the buyers knew that going into it, based on your conversations with them? I'm with Emily…. It’s a small house that’s painted the color of grass, and it's totally surrounded by dirt. I wanted to put a sign out there telling people, do your due diligence, beware. All he needed to do was bring in new customers. And the DBO said Silver Saddle didn’t have a permit to sell securities. In this bonus episode of California City, host Emily Guerin, the Desert Oracle’s Ken Layne, and artist and curator Kim Stringfellow explore the myths of the Mojave Desert as "wasteland," failed schemes and utopias, Instagram-driven tourism and coronavirus refugees. Yes. Ever…. EMILY GUERIN: All the DBO’s findings and evidence show that what Silver Saddle sold, at the price they sold it for, is a bad investment. JAMES KIM: One thing though, I have to say, every time, like, a conversation heads in that direction, people get afraid to talk. California City is out now! Afterwards, I went back and I read all the transcripts of all the interviews I’d done with people who bought into Silver Saddle. The bad coffee was now bad and stale. I work 5 years just to save that $30K. Try SimpliSafe today at SimpliSafe.com/CALCITY. EMILY GUERIN: He pointed at the totebag of Silver Saddle brochures and contracts. I bought groceries at the Dollar General. I was investigating. The grass on the par 3 golf course turned brown. This is episode 1 of 7. KATHRYN EFFORD: No! Nice to meet you. For decades, Californians have been obsessed with trying to profit off desert land. So I was naturally skeptical, but they had answers to all of my questions. Absolutely came from God. And, four: a nearly $4 million refund to everyone who had bought land since 1972. Texts. Has anyone ever told you that? He said he trusted me. KATHRYN EFFORD: I wore a size 12. DON KUYRKENDALL: They'd fly into Sea-tac and we'd load them up with our Seattle people, we'd fly down to Portland, pick up our Portland people, fly down to Los Angeles. ALEX MENDELSOHN: Occasionally, but not often. EMILY GUERIN: So they didn’t really let you read it? And the reason that she has no knowledge of that is — I don’t, do you think I'm going to tell somebody I'm getting on an airplane, I'm nine months pregnant? We have an appointment with Debbie. Instead there's an actual "keep out no trespassing" sign, but I know the road to Galileo Hill is still public, so, I drove up here and put the e-break on, and now I'm just standing out here. He accused them of knowingly manufacturing dangerous cars. How can you prey on your fellow Kababayans like that? There's a lot of land out there. THERESA GRIMSHAW: Yes, yes. EMILY GUERIN: It had been over two years since Ben’s trip to Silver Saddle. And then you're going to get to $20,000 plus additional $10,000. Not much to do out here, not unless you’re riding a dirt bike or playing sports. They were children, really. But Sylvia figured it out eventually, and soon enough, they were living alone in the Hollywood Hills, and Nat was the one in the small apartment in Santa Monica. Three: spend $16 million building paved roads, power, water and sewer lines. His credits include “The Big One: Your Survival Guide” and “Tell Them I Am.”, Gabriel Dunatov - Producer and Fact Checker, Gabriel Dunatov is a public radio producer, researcher and fact-checker based in Pasadena. THERESA GRIMSHAW: I probably get a call a day. But that made things even more complicated, because talking to them made me realize that there are. I mean, it’s not like putting fixer for Rudy Giuluani on there or anything, but it’s still not the best look. Tom Maney. He’d taken a job at the law school, and she worked in fundraising. And no more sales meant no more money to prop up California City. to Silver Saddle Ranch for the rest of his life. See...that wasn’t so bad now, was it?” The other sign said, “Welcome to Silver Saddle!” It was the company’s headquarters. EMILY GUERIN: That good question... is one that state investigators would ask themselves later on. In this bonus episode of California City, host Emily Guerin, the Desert Oracle’s Ken Layne, and artist and curator Kim Stringfellow explore the myths of the Mojave Desert as "wasteland," failed schemes and utopias, Instagram-driven tourism and coronavirus refugees. EMILY GUERIN: Do you feel bad that you brought people there? It was Silver Saddle’s chance to appeal. But I knew Los Angeles is a big city, not everybody knows who he is. or most of the people I met, Nat was a different kind of father figure. By all accounts, Nat was whatever you needed him to be. 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