It had an enlarged cabin to house six passengers and a 260-hp Continental engine. From 1962 to 2006 Cessna produced 8,509 aircraft in the 205, 206 and 207 variants. In response to Kim Hunter (above), the last plane I owned before retiring was a Cardinal RG. Dommage que l’ambition d’obtenir une certification ait périclité ! On n’est jamais trop prudent. Registration #: C-FVHN. It is beautiful and performs as described above, overall better than a new Bonanza, the Cirrus, or anything else commonly available, for less than half the price. C’est un avion de brousse rapide et particulièrement confortable. What a great machine! I had less than 200 hours on me, but I had little trouble moving up from my 150. Without question, though, the weak point of a Cessna 210 is the landing gear. Une expertise préachat est grandement conseillée. 182 Center Console ; Cessna 120,140. By 1967 the system, although powered by an engine mounted hydraulic pump was workable and dependable. Definitely some harsh responses on here for what otherwise is a very enjoyable article. Training. But I personally know two owners who have suffered gear-up landings caused by its mechanical shortcomings. A new owner who approaches annual inspection with a 172 mindset will be quickly disappointed. Cessna fixed the Cardinal gear in 78. In 1964, this aircraft evolved into the Model 206, which was in turn available in three versions: U206 Super Skywagon, P206 Utility, and P206 Super Skylane. Mr. Zimmerman you need to talk to more owners before you comment on a particular plane. We’ll never know, because Cessna took the opposite approach, buying the Columbia 350/400 series and trying to out-Cirrus Cirrus. D4510-13. You’re either a Coke or a Pepsi man. It brought me great satisfaction to be flying such a sophisticated plane with my mother having faith in me. Paul. The 210L and A36 have been made in almost equal numbers (2,126 Model 36 Bonanzas and 2,070 210Ls). I’m not sure I want to own one again, but I’d sure love to fly one again. With one of the middle seats removed, the cabin could accommodate all kinds of gear. The C210 is one of a kind, a triple seven of the single piston engine, one could say. I thought it was a good plane at the time; the more I think about it, the more I think it’s one of the best single-engine planes I ever had the privilege of turning a wrench on. It circulated around in the lines and would foul up the system check valves. Service ceiling is higher, range is longer. Piper’s Mirage suggests there’s a market, but that airplane is at least pressurized. The Cardinal is by far the sexiest design Cessna produced. Its cowling retained the bump originally needed to house the retracted front wheel on the 210; later Cessna 206 Stationair models eliminated this bump for a more streamlined look. 640,10 EUR. Coming from an aviation family, John grew up in the back of small airplanes and learned to fly as a teenager. Certainly all those levers are manageable in the Cessna, but it does require extra work – work that can quickly add up during single pilot IFR flights. I trained two student pilots from scratch on their own 210’s. Cessna always hinted that the fully cantilevered wing was expensive to make, and it’s notable that all of the single-engine airplanes currently manufactured by Cessna feature strut-braced wings. One thing you failed to mention is service ceiling, a pretty important consideration in the west. Because of its heft, it is very stable. 61,95 EUR. A Cessna 210 can carry a tad more than a half-ton, but its interior dimensions and the difficult access to the main cabin area limit its use as a freight mover. I used to own a 1979 P210 for 20 years, the airplane flies great, its fast and economic to get there.Sold it 7 years ago and bought Turbo Prop, that is more expensive on the maintenance.Sold it las year and bought again a P210R 1986, airplane flies fast and has 120 gal. August 10, 2005. Nice job!! The Garmin G1000 glass-panel system comes standard on Cessna 182 aircraft. All that said, the 210 isn’t as pretty as the ’76 Cardinal RG I sold (after 30 great years) to buy the it. Having a shop that knows 210s is the best way to prevent problems. I appreciate your article on the C210. The 210 is a serious airplane, the Cardinal is a fun airplane. That meant four 200 lb. Avionic Installations Service/Parts Manual. (Note that I’m excluding the pressurized P210 model, which is an entirely different animal, and exhaustively analyzed by Richard Collins here.). Lorsque s’arrêta la production, en 1986, quelque 5200 Cessna 206 étaient sortis des chaînes de montage. I thought I wrote a fairly positive article about an airplane I love. En comparaison, les C150 et C172 – avec chacun plus de 1000 exemplaires répertoriés – font figure de proue. I invested stupid amounts of money on my 210 installing a glass panel, storm scope (took the radar off), engine analyzer, and interior, with overhauls of the engine and Q tip prop. I owned it for 12 years, but it is still out there flying. My plane is powered by a Turbo Normalized 550F built by Western Skyways. In no time I was slowed below 100 knots and made a smooth landing on the two-mile long runway at IAD. Tout du moins, dans son concept original. Question sécurité, on préconisera l’aménagement d’une porte pax avant. Mine had the “RAM” conversion as well as the gear doors removed. The airplane is “Known Ice”, built-in oxygen, and AC. Every airplane model has a personality; some even have a stereotype. I bought it in 1985 with 1025 hours on it. I owed a T-210L for 30 plus years flew it for 35 years. When I pull power in the 210 (over the numbers) I can start the flair gradually and ease on down. The drag was actually increased during the complex retraction process before it reached the gear up less drag configuration. 5) Have you ever tried to take a picture from a “newer airplane”? You do not have to be Richard Collins or Ernest Gann--simply a GA pilot with a story you'd share with friends sitting in the hangar. I flew with John Frank in his 1967 T210 and we never had any problems with the gear system. Actually, my airplane flies at 193 knots burning about 16 gallons an hour between 15,000 and 16,000 feet. Okay so sometime in the future I'd like to own an airplane. Primary tabs. Air Facts still champions, educates, informs and entertains pilots worldwide with real-world flying experiences. Finally, NO…. The 206 is easy to fly once you learn power settings and trim technique. Critiqué à juste titre pour sa sous-motorisation, le Cessna 206 – même turbo – est certainement limité. À condition, bien entendu, que la machine ait été entretenue et révisée adéquatement. Had a few varied and vague responses as to what the difference is between the two aircraft, and some confusion as to whether if you're type-rated in one you're automatically type-rated in the other (ie, like the C150/152). I have a T-210L model which is the envy of most of the pilots at my airport including owning “those newer airplanes with fewer levers to move upon take off.” Facts that Mr. Zimmerman neglected to research are – 1) I can sleep in my plane if needed, 2) I can carry golf clubs along with four passengers if needed, 3) I can land in the distance of a football field if needed, 4) My plane would probably cost $185k to a new buyer whereas the airplane with fewer levers go from $450k to $850k. Is that even legal to take off? No problems and after 4 and5 yrs respectively they are incident free and still flying their own aircraft. What a bloody joke! En 1967, un moteur plus puissant, soit 300 ch, équipa le TU206. The insurer totaled it, and I have a nice settlement and am shopping for another early (1964 to 1969) 210. Excellent! Great airplanes, unfortunately the FAA saw fit to pull my medical, but that’s another story. How much did the vapor-lock fix cost? Suddenly,without warning, your eyes are drawn down the page by a mysterious force field and arecaptured by the Aerostar or Baron or Cessna 310 section. The six-seat model 206 was introduced in 1964. Au Canada, on dénombre 323 Cessna 206 immatriculés. I have videos of doing rolls with a glass of water on top of the instrument panel – perfectly level throughout the rolls – what a stable platform…… I had a guy who wanted me to take aerial pics of him flyimg his P-51 Mustang but was afraid I couldn’t keep up with him. Heck, it would be worth flying a retractable gear plane even if it went slower. Terrible article couldn’t be further from the truth written from ignorance from somebody who apparently doesn’t have much time in the aircraft the Cessna T210M or N Is in a league by itself performance useful load the real true comparison would be more towards a twin Aircraft Even though there are no twin aircraft that have the same useful. Is turbo necessary for over 15,000 altitude flying? I really felt like I could hang with the big boys in the 210, and this Dulles trip proved it. I suspect it is all about getting government subsidies. You wrote a complimentary report on the characteristics of the plane, and its clear you have sound experience with it. Perhaps someone will resurrect the 210’s capability in that format. Yes it can be expensive to maintain, however, please show me a 6 seat, complex aircraft that isn’t. For the same reason, many check-hauling operations flew 210s for years, criss-crossing the country at night with cabins stuffed full of canceled checks. Required fields are marked *. An inexperienced mechanic who misses a minor squawk can create a much bigger problem when one wheel doesn’t come down in flight. Prix : 110 000 $ US. Passengers seemed to enjoy the 210 as well. It had an enlarged cabin to house six passengers and a 260-hp Continental engine. 1998 - 2010 Cessna Stationair 206 Year: Rob, The prototypical Malibu pilot steps up from a Saratoga, Cirrus, or a Cessna 210. La pose/dépose semestrielle des flotteurs requiert également plus de temps que sur d’autres modèles de la marque. Good job and great article. 180 • Cessna 206 vs. Cessna 210: Marius: 3/8/99 12:00 AM: Hi there! Leurs moteurs respectifs évoluèrent également. Le Cessna 206, qui fit son premier vol en 1965, est le descendant direct du Cessna 205 auquel on avait ajouté un moteur plus puissant et une double porte de soute. Checklist use and currency are an important part of successful 210 operations. That is a nicety that a bucket of money will solve one day. Devenu désormais Turbo Stationair HD, celui-ci se détaillait, fin 2016 et compte tenu d’un taux de change peu avantageux, à près de 850 000 $ CA, hors taxes. In the air, they flew like heavy utility aircraft are supposed to fly. Watching all the gyrations for the gear to come up, I felt proud to be flying a retractable gear plane. LOP that’s about 5.5 hours. Plus au sud, au cœur du Missouri, Van Pray Jr., pilote d’essai et parachutiste professionnel, commercialise, en partenariat avec Turbine Conversions, un kit d’installation pour Pratt & Whitney PT6, série 20 (turbine neuve ou usagée en sus). From 1962 to 2006 Cessna produced 8,509 aircraft in the 205, 206 and 207 variants. Une version turbocompressée était également au catalogue (TSIO-520-C). I once flew two people and a complete, 4 ft.-long cornhole set (Google it – it’s a lawn game) to Put-in-Bay, a small island in Lake Erie. Tous droits réservés Kolosszus l'agence WEB. Fiable, solide et de maintenance conventionnelle, il semble apprécié par les pilotes, les exploitants et les mécaniciens. I left that great experience to eventually fly MD-80s back in the U. S. However, I will never forget the amazingly useful and great-flying 210. When I was released after four turns in the hold, the controller asked what speed he could expect from me on final. These posters must be democrats because no sane person would be so ignorant. Regrettably, though, I did not. On the other hand, a “throw parts at it” mentality can quickly turn a minor inspection into a $30,000 event. I was never impressed with the 210 and glad I’ve never owned one. Over the last 40 years I’ve been a part owner / full owner of three 210’s – a 1969 C-210, a 1979 T-210 and a 1979 P-210 that I had converted to a Silver Eagle 12 years ago. U206, TU206 (1969-1973); 180, 185, 207 & T207 (1969-1973) Avionic Service. D4548-13. Maintenance is easy on this airplane. Some friends in an Aztec and a 182 couldn’t find a way to make it work, but it was easy in the Centurion. Such an accident isn’t possible in a Cirrus. Cessna 206 Series. Cessna has always been superior in customer support compared all the other manufacturers that’s why they’re still in business So if you can’t afford the Best aT210 M or N don’t buy one You have to pay to play. Enjoyed the comments,except the political one, but they’re everywhere nowadays…I am in the market for a 210 now..have flown 210’s years ago, and loved them..I have owned 206,180, baron,debonair..all good , but I don’t like climbing over the wing in beeches, and 206’s are few and far between, 180 too small for current needs…thanks for the owner comments..good info. Aircraft. Flying on edge – getting down to the nitty-gritty. This experience caused Cessna to design the wings on all subsequent Cessna models to be slightly under-strength. Now retired with 1978 Cardinal FG – I still long for the days and cross-countries high above the Rockies circumventing weather with our StormScope in N4818Y. The original Cessna 210 was certified 60 years ago, and went through dozens of design changes over its 27-year run. Toutes séries confondues, près de 10 000 exemplaires furent construits pour le marché civil mais aussi militaire. Kevin O'Brien: Mar 11, 1999 12:00 AM: Posted in group: rec.aviation.homebuilt: In article <firstname.lastname@example.org>, ronbe...@aol.com (RonBellDVM) wrote: > Something in the back of my head says the 210 lost the struts around 1962, but > I could be wrong. A trip into Washington Dulles one day in 2004 sold me on the airplane. Permalink ... Cessna 206, and should not be confused with the entirely different Cessna 182." The turbo in our unpressurized 210 seldom worked, but when it did it made a super good impression on me. I could still put almost 1000 lbs. Leur historique de maintenance ne correspond donc pas toujours à la réalité… Dans ce sens, la collaboration (même virtuelle) d’un mécanicien canadien semblera fort utile. Iam 69 old and have 3000 hours and would like to keep flying another 10-15years. Le TU206, quant à lui, recevait un TSIO-520-M de 310 chevaux. The weather doesn’t seem to be so nasty even for the situation of a pilot a little rusty in IFR flights. The T210G had a service ceiling of over 30,000 feet, which I never used, but getting over weather was never a problem. Malibu vs. Cessna P210. Tragedy on the beach at Venice – what would you do? Then in '56 came the 182. Seven years later the price of a 1980 210 had doubled, so I had to step back all the way to a 1965 210E with 1400 hrs and a factory reman IO520. Nope – didn’t miss nothun’ – and concur wholeheartedly the second time around on all of your points based upon 1500 hours in 1977 T-210M (our first corporate airplane) in the middle 80’s before moving up to TBM 700. Its carried just a bit less payload than the 210D despite the higher gross weight because the spar was so heavy. Certes, la totalité du parc n’est peut-être plus en état de navigabilité. First, the reasons to love a Cessna 210. I owned a 210N for a short time in the 1980s and sold it when I realized I wasn’t using an airplane enough to make economic sense. Aircraft Canada. Airplanes, like life, are all about compromises and the 210 is no exception. I have always been a recreational flyer. There will be people in the water that are even harder to see. Attention aux appareils vendus aux USA ! This family is used in commercial air service and personal use. Compared to a Cirrus SR22, Cessna’s top-of-the-line single is complicated, with gear, prop, and cowl flap controls to manipulate. Breathing through an oxygen mask and being so far above the Rockies it looked as if there was no need to learn mountain flying while still having about 2 inches of throttle left was a heady experience. The result was failure and another shuttered production line, even though the airplane was a great performer. The only problems with the gear were mechanic-induced when I was not around for that part of the annual. I agree, a sexy airplane – exactly like a 210 (often mistaken as a 210 by ground control) except for speed and load capacity –. Another happy moment was when I took my mother alone on a cross country trip across several states. I can see the need for the GFC-700 in a Cessna Corvallis or SR-22 that are slick, fast airplanes. According to a Richard Collins article I came across, the Silver Eagle was actually originally designed by Cessna as the C250 (rember it has an A250 turbine) but never made production. Had a ’78 T210 which I sold a few years back and still miss it everyday. Cessna Single Engine Parts. Puis, en 1970, l’avionneur du Kansas le nomma Stationair : une contraction de Station Wagon of the Air. 210A A 210 with a third cabin window on each side, introduced in 1961, 265 built. All three were powered by the 285-hp Continental engine. Something that would be fun for weekend trips and/or just general flying on a nice day. Of course I was IMC, of course there was a little ice, and of course there were a few bumps over the eastern edges of the Appalachian Mountains. Le Cessna 206 est un avion 6 places, ailes hautes, monomoteur. Engine 1 Notes Left - 1101 Hrs* SMOH Continental TSIO520-NB 325 HP 1600 Hr. The 210 I flew, a 1980 model with no rear gear doors, boasted a maximum gear speed at the bottom of the yellow arc, so I used the landing gear like a speed brake. From the pilot’s perspective, there are also compromises. LOL He had trouble keeping up with me. Du côté de la Canadian Owners and Pilots Association, j’ai trouvé dans la rubrique Adds, un P206 de 1964 (C-GRAM), accusant 1751 heures, apparemment bien équipé, livré avec un jeu de roues et une paire de flotteurs. I felt much more confident in IFR in the 210. I want one! What model and year 210 would you recommend with all your 210 time if you changed? The flexibility in the cabin led to another character trait: its truck-like handling. He said, “That’s impossible, we aren’t faster than a bonanza.” He paused and said, “Unless they don’t have a supercharger.” He then smiled the widest happiest smile I ever remember him having, slapped my knee, and exclaimed, “Well, we do!” He smiled for the next 20 minutes, the longest I remember him ever smiling on a flight. Fad is for sure about the electric Pipistrel. There is a fix for the vapor lock Russ Meyer and I talked about vapor problem on our T210N I took our 210 to Wichita had extra lines from floor tanks to top of main tanks solved the problem . adults and lots of baggage, something that isn’t possible with most Bonanzas or Saratogas. À titre comparatif, les ultimes Cessna 185 sont tractés par un IO -520-D. Virant à 2850 tr/min au maximum et de même force, les deux moteurs se différencient essentiellement par la configuration de leur système d’injection et d’accessoires associés (position du boîtier d’admission et du filtre à air, par exemple). This is a pilots airplane that must be flown. Développement. Deux versions, à nouveau, se juxtaposèrent : normale (300 ch) et turbo (310 ch). Love the 210N . I had many annuals under $1000. Enjoyed it and flew it for 2500 plus hours. Camelia and I bought a 1979 T210N new 4 hours on it we have 5100hrs on it now when we have all ways been the pic since 4 hours. The six-seat aircraft was essentially a Cessna 210 with fixed landing gear and with changes to the crew and passenger door arrangement, being officially designated by Cessna as a "Model 210-5". Le Cessna 206 Stationair est un avion six places, monomoteur à pistons à ailes hautes. Idem sur roues en plein été et sur terrain court ! Supposedly the 2015 206 is getting club seating, but like much of Cessna's not-jets lately, it could be vaporware. We said it at the beginning, but it’s worth repeating that none Schnee und Eis ausgestattet. Upgrade vs IO-520 Engine Overhaul (Based on 2200 Flight Hours after the IO-550 T.I. In 2004, I replaced the 210D with a 1967 T210G. Leurs annales sont parfois compliquées, voire impossibles à retracer. Later he asked where it was and I pointed to it at a 3 o’clock position. 1998 - 2010 Cessna Stationair 206 Year: 32 710. I miss her. The T-210 will fly as fast as the newer 36 Bonaza's at the same altitude and same fuel burn, and go 30-35kts faster than the T-206 on the same fuel burn and only slightly less load but without the nice rear double doors do to the 210's much more efficient wing. YouTube Encyclopedic. Cessna originally introduced the airplane in 1963 as the 205—basically a fixed-gear version of the Cessna 210. Je veux le croire. Beauty is most certainly in the eye of the beholder when it comes to airplanes. Le second, année 1969, série D, a une charge utile supérieure aux modèles récents. Cessna brought back the 172 and 182, but not the 210. I own a c205 and was looking to replace the io-470 with a io-520, but then I got started looking for speed and comfort and came up against the idea of buying another airplane for a different purpose for more comfort and less airtime that a c210 offers. Heading out to Bots come 2008 and thinking of doing a 206 or 207 rating as I've heard that's what they predominantly use over there. Cool running and powerful up into the service ceiling. My favorite is obviously the Silver Eagle. Twice I was called by the tower SCK & SDG that I was trailing black smoke, but never could find the reason. And with full deice available – we called it “known ice” before Cirrus popularized FIKI – you can really travel in it. Aircraft Canada. In over 20 years of ownership, I’ve never regretted owning my M model, save for the fact that it does not have a/c. Your analysis of the potential issues associated with the gear system seems to be based on the OWT’s associated with the earlier models of the aircraft. 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